Also, check out the roundup of National Poetry Month goodness at Jama's Alphabet Soup. As always, there's a ton of creativity going on in this community of poets... take that covid-19!
Today it is my pleasure to welcome Vikram Madan to respond to three simple prompts as they relate to his brand-new book A HATFUL OF DRAGONS, from Boyds Mills and Kane, which he both wrote and illustrated. Vikram and I were to be on the Poetry Roundup panel together at Texas Library Association, and I am so sorry that didn't happen! But it makes me extra-glad to have him for a visit here, at Live Your Poem. Take it away, Vikram!
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The delicious:
VM: Although ‘A Hatful of Dragons’
is primarily a book of funny poems, the illustrations accompanying
the poems are vital to the humor. I am a visual person (my
‘day job’ is ‘visual artist’!) and I often conceive of
poems as a visual whole - with words and images intertwining and
playing off each other. When Rebecca Davis, my editor, distilled my
raw manuscript into a more defined collection, she was drawn to the
handful of poems that had linkages to each other. As we refined the
book further, I found this a delicious area to explore: could I find
ways to visually cross-connect the poems in unexpected ways, so as to
enhance both the humor and the reading experience? I hope that
attentive readers will have a delightful time discovering how
recurring characters and visual narratives cross-connect the poems.
(For example, can you find the characters from Page 56 on Page 38?)
The difficult:
VM: I initially thought illustrating the
book would be a breeze – just a matter of turning rough sketches
into finished art. Boy was I wrong!
My first set of illustrations ended up
‘too tight’ – I had the art-equivalent of stage-fright (this
being my first traditionally published book) and overthought
everything, making the resulting artwork look rigid and lifeless. It
took gentle prodding from my editors to help me loosen up and breathe
life into the drawings.
Many times my art just had to ‘grow
up’ to meet the ‘high expectations’. Other times I found myself
iterating on possibilities trying to find the right look. For example
here are eight (spot-the-differences!) layouts I created for the back
cover (all of which were eventually rejected for being ‘too busy’):
In general I ended up working on the art far more than I expected to. That said, it was a fabulous learning experience and my editors were wonderfully patient as I found my way.
The unexpected:
VM: When I am writing rhyming poetry, I
focus a lot on rhythm, rhyme, beat, scansion, and syllable count.
What I did not expect at all was that the poems in the book would end
up being copy-edited. And the copy editors would (rightly) suggest
corrections to my (colloquial) punctuation, grammar, word and phrase
usage, etc. Some of the requested changes threw a wrench (or more
accurately, an unwanted syllable or two) into my carefully
constructed stanzas and I had to go back to redo parts of some poems.
In the process I had to grudgingly accept that, as writers for kids
who are just learning to read, we have a responsibility to
demonstrate the correct use of language, and hold ourselves to the
higher standard, even if it makes our own jobs a little harder.
Anything else:
VM: I’ve been amazed at my editors’
attention to detail. For example, my illustration for a poem titled
‘Time Machine’ had a subtle reference to the movie ‘Back To
The Future’. I didn’t think anyone would notice it – but
sure enough my editors spotted the ‘anomaly’! With their blessing
that ‘easter-egg’ is still in the book – look for it on page
48! :)
***YAY! I found the Back to The Future 'easter-egg.' :) Also, you can hear Vikram reading poems from the book in this video.
... and now for the latest installment of ArtSpeak: RED (my National Poetry Month project extended across the entire year!) ... I had hoped Vikram's book would inspire me to write something light, but that's not what happened. Sigh.
In
the Midst of It All
yes,
the hills
are
burning
lake
bleeds
into
sky
birds
wing away –
why?
why? why?
still
–
sun
calls,
enfolds
us
in
her cloak –
no
more you
no
more me
WE
- Irene Latham
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It was wonderful reading Vikram's thoughts especially the line, "it was a fabulous learning experience..." Writing opens minds and heats to new ways of looking at life, finding the words to be expressive, and growing as a writer. Looking at writing as a learning experience opens new paths to ponder. We write. We grow. I appreciate Vikram's perspective on how both his poetry and art grew from the experience of writing a "Hatful of Dragons". Irene, your poem is searing with insight on the current crisis. The WE ending resonated with me because of our Governor's thoughts on changing the emphasis from me to we so WE can become united. Thanks for the interesting RED poem. My NPM project is using the time to create and curate a new gallery for the times, #Nature Nurtures". Your image poem may fit nicely if you are interested. I have the invitation at blog under the title, Nature Nurtures:! Special Invitation.
ReplyDeleteVikram's book looks so good! And thank you for your Red poem. Yes, please, WE! :)
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed reading about Madan's process writing. Hoping my library gets a copy of his book soon!
ReplyDeleteYour poem is relevant and thoughtful. Love it.
Hopefully your library has a form for suggesting new books that you can fill in! Sometimes libraries like to see a independent third-party review to consider the purchase, in which case you can point them to this Kirkus Review: https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/vikram-madan/a-hatful-of-dragons/ Thanks!
DeleteThank you for featuring me Irene! :)
ReplyDeleteLove the sentiment in your lovely poem
I love where your poem ends on "We" very strong Irene, and gorgeous Georgia O'Keefe painting. I'm so charmed and taken with Vikram's book. Interesting to hear about all the changes in both the poems and the art–especially "The unexpected" part he talks about. Thanks for sharing his delightful book!
ReplyDeleteThe copyediting was definitely unexpected (and my least favorite part of the process :) ). Thanks for stopping by! :)
DeleteI'm excited that I won Vikram's book at Matt's site, especially having read this interview. Making a book is hard work. Your red poem today took me to the skies with our collective "why? why? why?" This is a time we need to look out for the we.
ReplyDeleteCongrats for winning the book! I hope you'll love it enough to leave a positive review somewhere :)
DeleteI love hearing more about Vikram's book, Irene, know that the grand-girls will love it. I enjoyed seeing the examples of the back cover, and hearing that there will be 'connections' in the book, always fun to discover! And your red poem, a prayer for us all, isn't it? Thank you!
ReplyDeleteThanks - I put in lots of cross-connections that I hope kids will have fun discovering.
DeleteThanks for the interview with Vikram, Irene. What was especially interesting to me was how a few subtle changes really did breathe life into that panda drawing. As for your poem, not light, no, but I'm glad you let Red decide what it needed to say.
ReplyDeleteAs I learnt through this process, never underestimate the power of a 'broken line' (over a continuous line, especially when illustrating...).
DeleteThanks for another great post, Irene!
ReplyDeleteWhat a great interview and a window into Vikram's experience. I loved his growth mindset :) Though your red poem may not be light (something that seems ever-elusive these days!), it is compelling. Thanks for such a rich post!
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed hearing more from Vikram after first meeting him on Matt's blog last week. A Hatful of Dragons looks delightful. And while you red poem may not have been light, it soars with hope that WE can come together.
ReplyDeleteI hope some of you can attend my online book launch party. Details here https://www.vikrammadan.com/blog/online-book-launch-hatful-of-dragons
ReplyDeleteI'm so very late in finishing the rounds this week, Irene and Vikram--turns out online PreK is pretty demanding! Happy that this book is getting lots of love in a scary time. Hang tough, WE.
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